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This all started awhile ago (2 years now?), wanting to try the Pyle frames out as a sacrificial pair and utilize the Peerless 2"/50mm paper-coned driver units. Most are polyethylene, and that set these apart. The cheap Pyle frames allowed me to audition them and know that I liked what I heard.
https://www.parts-express.com/peerless-hpd-50n25pr00-32-2-headphone-driver-diaphragm--264-1510
The Pyle frames had issues with durability, and assembly inconsistencies that made them not a completely viable solution. Stock they were horrible.
https://www.parts-express.com/pyle-phpdj1-dj-turbo-headphones--248-4414
Then I sought out a better set of frames to continue with, and found the Talent SMH580 for dirt-cheap at the tent sale. I like the fit and feel of this 'AKG-esque' frame, and found it would be suitable and accepted 50mm drive units. Then- they were discontinued. Stock the bass was a little strong, and a little soft in the mids with polite treble.
https://www.parts-express.com/talent-smh580-semi-open-back-studio-headphones--233-350
And as you saw above if you clicked the link, PE also stopped carrying the Peerless drive units.
So, I was able to find replacements relatively easily/inexpensively....
Digikey as we know is a source for Tymphany products, and they stock them:
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/peerless-by-tymphany/HPD-50N25PR00-32/6211129
(The image on the item's online-page is not the correct image, and clicking the spec-sheet document shows the correct one.)
I was able to find a set of Stellar-Labs HP580 cans from Newark that looked very familiar, though a bit more red color is utilized:
https://www.newark.com/stellar-labs/ho-5960/full-size-dj-headphones/dp/52W8580#
AND- they were on sale (still are even) for about $18! Even the internals match that of the older Talent frames.
There are other options that are similar, like PreSonus HD7, available from Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/PreSonus-HD7-Professional-Monitoring-Headphones/dp/B004ACQMUQ/ref=pd_di_sccai_58?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B004ACQMUQ&pd_rd_r=7949feef-edd3-4364-8636-55ebec291dbb&pd_rd_w=QgfpR&pd_rd_wg=xwd1Z&pf_rd_p=5415687b-2c9d-46da-88a4-bbcfe8e07f3c&pf_rd_r=YPPA0K0RJ6EPFW27QH87&psc=1&refRID=YPPA0K0RJ6EPFW27QH87
...but their cost is too high for sure! $18 is a lot better, added the cost of the Peerless units making the total about $40.
So- recap:
1- I gently removed the cushions from the frames.
2- I removed the 4 tiny screws from the face of the driver mount to gain access, and that is really all it takes to get in there.
3- Just snip the wires close to the elements to remove the whole assembly to work on it. I would leave about 0.25" wire on the driver to verify polarity before soldering later, as this ended up being the same in position on the Peerless units.
4- Use a small screw driver to work at the adhesive around the stock driver unit, and it will come free with very little elbow grease.
5- Remove the sticker that faces the listener's ear. It's a 'quadrant of a donut' shape, and says "Monitoring Headphone DYNAMIC" on it. All this does is reduce the midband when in place. If done right and you prefer them in place, you can reinstall them. I liked them better without.
6- Install electrical tape across 3 of the 6 open vents facing the listener. This will lower the tuning and tighten up the bass. I covered the 3 holes toward the rear of my head when worn because my Sony headphones' bass holes were towards the front of my head. I figured they knew why they did that.
7- Glue Peerless driver elements in with E6000 (about 2-3 hr cure time), around the entire perimeter of the driver for a good seal and to prevent rattles.
8- Place batting in the cups. I used about 4" square, 1/2" thick pieces of wool batting, but Ultratouch, Dacron, etc could all be substituted. I even bet cotton balls would be a worthy method for this. You can't get it too thick, or the mounting plate won't reinstall in the cup.
9- Solder terminals after glue has dried, and reinstall plate screws and cushions.
10- Enjoy!
I have a yearning to try adhesive felt around the inner perimeter of the cups as it seems like there is a midbass spot that might be resonating slightly, but I am really splitting hairs. The cups are pretty thin material and could be the reason, but who wants a heavy headphone?
I find the top-end to be polite, and nothing is offensive in relative output. These are comfortable, detailed, and sound much better than $40 has a right to. Everyone that has tried them has liked them, and Chuck is really thinking about modding some for his church sound crew.
I figured since the talk of can-amp mods and such came up, I'd post a project for the other part. The picture of the completed cans really won't say much. They look like those in the link.
I really like these!
Ben
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We need pics.
I do have to adapt a second set as I've only used 2 of the 4 drive units I bought. Maybe I can do that then...
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At least of the finished product.
You want a photo of headphones? Like I said- that's just like the product photo. You want to see the driver in situ, or what in particular?
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Thanks Ben for sharing this. I have never owned a decent pair of cans but this might be the inspiration I need. I'll probably replicate exactly what you did. Then I can also play around and build a neat tube headphone amp... seems like a good winter/covid project 😀
You're welcome, Craig! I hope you enjoy them. FWIW- these are a 32 ohm load in case that was missed.
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I often wondered does anyone measure and eq the headphone driver response?
https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/diy-audio-heaven-intro/
I see measurements. Seems like it would be fun to add a passive network
All you need is one of these.
https://bksv.com/en/products/transducers/ear-simulators/head-and-torso/hats-type-4128c
Ron
He sells passive networks for some.
https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/passive-filters/
Apparently there is a blue version at Newark too!
https://www.newark.com/stellar-labs/hc-5980/full-size-monitor-dj-headphones/dp/78Y7634
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Wolf - here's another cheap pair (today at least) you could try modding. They have 50mm drivers.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1489656-REG/polsen_hpc_a30_mk2_closed_back_studio_monitor_headphones.html
Modded another pair, so I took photos this time! You wanted them, you got them!
And some more notes-
I found that more stuffing is a no-no. It kills the midrange and makes them muffled.
I found that felt around the inside perimeter is also not a good idea. Made them chesty, and more muffled.
So- keep them simple, flat filling to fit the diameter of 0.5" thick batting and no more. I'd go so far to say that no fill would be better than too much fill. Less-dense fill with good damping properties is preferred. ie- wool batting, dacron, cotton balls, or nufoam would work well. I would stay away from Ultratouch or the like.
Hope this helps the skeptical or the visually focused.
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