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Trying to keep out of trouble; impedance question.

edited October 15 in DIY

I’ve been playing with VituixCad setting a LP 1st order on a 4ohm woofer with a HP 1st order on an 8ohm full-ranger with varying -3dB target levels on each driver, to look at the affect on the system’s impedance load to an amp. I.e. a) with a large overlap where the LP (woofer) is set at 400Hz with the HP (full ranger) set at 100Hz, and b) with a disconnect / hole with a LP at 200Hz and a HP at 800Hz. The ‘goal’ of this exercise is just to look at extremes to see if either largely overlapping or underlapping a 4ohm woofer with an 8ohm full ranger gets the system’s impedance below 4ohms, i.e. as would be the case by paralleling (without a crossover) these two drivers. I didn’t see any issues, but wanted to check with this group as I’ve been known to mess up modeling in the past. Additionally, do differing orders have unique issues I should be aware of?

Thanks

Comments

  • Maybe post some graphs?

  • edited October 16

    Your results will vary based on what 4 ohm woofer and 8 ohm full range driver you happen to select to make comparisons. Since I had in box impedance data files loaded in VituixCAD for an 8 ohm full ranger (Dayton PS95-8) and a 4 ohm woofer (Tang Band W6-1139SIF), I used these drivers to illustrate the differences. Hopefully this project will keep us both out of trouble! B)

    Paralleled drivers without xover:

    400Hz 4 ohm LP on woofer and 100Hz 8 ohm HP on full ranger:

    200Hz 4 ohm LP on woofer and 800Hz 8 ohm HP on full ranger:

    tajanes
  • Ran three examples; does show extreme overlap bringing down system impedance towards 3.6ohms. Third example probably more realistic with slight overlap netting 3.8ohms, not a real issue. Tends to make some sense with overlap drivers in parallel. But not certain here if my 'results' are accurate / sound?

  • edited October 16

    @4thtry said:
    Your results will vary based on what 4 ohm woofer and 8 ohm full range driver you happen to select to make comparisons. Since I had in box impedance data files loaded in VituixCAD for an 8 ohm full ranger (Dayton PS95-8) and a 4 ohm woofer (Tang Band W6-1139SIF), I used these drivers to illustrate the differences. Hopefully this project will keep us both out of trouble! B)

    I was running examples while you had posted- thanks

  • I get down to about 3.6 ohms with paralleled drivers in my example as well. This goes up to about 4 ohms with a slight overlap and up to about 5.2 ohms with a disconnect/hole type situation. So I would say your results are very accurate and sound. Either that, or we are both completely wrong.

    tajanes
  • If the sensitivity of the woofer is high enough, you could use an 18-20G air core inductor. The higher dcr might help keep things from dropping too low.

    tajanes4thtry
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