If you hear a cymbal on an RS28A vs the TBFC there is a clear difference, and I prefer the RS28A. There isn't anything extra or artificial from them.
IMO The rs28a is too laid back on cymbals which to me is an unrealistic reproduction. Cymbals are suppose to be splashy. I fully agree on your description of the difference in sound between them though. Also were you saying that ribbons have a similar splashy sound to the seas? I have yet to hear a ribbon tweeter.
I wish I could demo the synergy horn at Iowa. The low HD of the XT in a horn is really different. You could call it sterile, or revealing. I've categorized it as OBish clarity without the room issues.
With respect to the RS28A, the cymbals, bells and triangles the RS28 seems to be to have the right decay time.
Paint next weekend and pictures before the end of the month. Probably Fort Wayne unless Pete or Tom stop by. If you have followed the build not much to unveil, box with holes...
You're gonna have to spill, cuz I don't know of any.
Mike's Redemption I brought to Indy and Meniscus. Rs28f crossed at 1.5k.
Honestly, Chuck- they sounded fine in your implementation, but they still didn't amaze me. I definitely prefer the A. The A is just altogether more like I prefer, and never sounds muted. I agree with John on the decay.
They CAN sound that way, but tend to be a bit snappier due to the low Mms of the diaphragm. This means there isn't as much overhang from drive. Just call it a sweeter slightly 2nd order enhanced snappy thing.
I was excited about the new DX25BG60-04 until I noticed it has 0.1 mm Xmax. That's 1/10 of the RS28A's Xmax. It might sound great, but I don't see how it could be crossed as low as the RS28A.
The "T" addendum has me a bit worried - I really hope they are not using the Esoteric motor and chamber with a dome. That chamber was too large.
Yeah, the "new" name leads me to think that they admit that this is a new driver that "pays homage to" the old RS28, and is NOT a new version of the RS28.
What I find more interesting is that Tktran (posted in same thread) visited Usher's new retail store and reported Usher is alive and well. They apparently are not out of business as reported. Since the RS28 and Usher 9950 are reportedly interchangeable, it sounds to me like a supplier disagreement with PE and a new US distributor is needed for Usher products. CCS perhaps?
If i have learned anything from JR's dissection of numerous PE drivers is that they cheap out where you can't see. Their unit to unit variability is quite good but i feel like the cheaping out of drivers causes them to make some odd deductions to drivers that would otherwise be fantastic for the pricepoint (even if it increased a bit).
I've been told Usher is just getting out of the DIY driver sector. They don't need to sell us drivers to make money.
The skating of the dimple-patent was the last straw for SB, and the backfire from SB about this tactic is what Stahl was referring to in his rant awhile back.
Before that, with the association of Intertechnik, PE had thought that SB would be able to be brought in and stocked. I really don't know why that didn't happen, but I imagine it was due to SB's stance back then.
PE is seen as 'small potatoes' to a lot of the driver manufacturers, and MAD is the preferred retailer in the USA.
Yes- PE drivers tend to offer good performance and short-change elsewhere. The RS w/o copper, but the use of the phase plug as a 'shorting path' helps. I think the Ultimax drivers are not as robust as they are made out to be. The RSS subs are a well-made and engineered driver and actually do have 3 shorting paths, IMO, the best line they sell.
Besides, the state of modern dome tweeters leaves us a ton of nice options in the $60 and under range. I have one of those new Tymphany DX25 variants loaded in a cabinet, I expect great things from it, and it costs less, is better looking, and a slightly smaller faceplate to boot.
I reiterate: there is zero reason to mourn the loss of the RS28.
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Also were you saying that ribbons have a similar splashy sound to the seas? I have yet to hear a ribbon tweeter.
With respect to the RS28A, the cymbals, bells and triangles the RS28 seems to be to have the right decay time.
Honestly, Chuck- they sounded fine in your implementation, but they still didn't amaze me. I definitely prefer the A. The A is just altogether more like I prefer, and never sounds muted. I agree with John on the decay.
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Almost forgot- Killa-
They CAN sound that way, but tend to be a bit snappier due to the low Mms of the diaphragm. This means there isn't as much overhang from drive. Just call it a sweeter slightly 2nd order enhanced snappy thing.
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I've been told Usher is just getting out of the DIY driver sector. They don't need to sell us drivers to make money.
The skating of the dimple-patent was the last straw for SB, and the backfire from SB about this tactic is what Stahl was referring to in his rant awhile back.
Before that, with the association of Intertechnik, PE had thought that SB would be able to be brought in and stocked. I really don't know why that didn't happen, but I imagine it was due to SB's stance back then.
PE is seen as 'small potatoes' to a lot of the driver manufacturers, and MAD is the preferred retailer in the USA.
Yes- PE drivers tend to offer good performance and short-change elsewhere. The RS w/o copper, but the use of the phase plug as a 'shorting path' helps. I think the Ultimax drivers are not as robust as they are made out to be. The RSS subs are a well-made and engineered driver and actually do have 3 shorting paths, IMO, the best line they sell.
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Isn't that the same path Dynaudio took?
I reiterate: there is zero reason to mourn the loss of the RS28.