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Napoleons and the Cavalry

edited December 2022 in DIY

I build the Napoleons several years ago as a small desk top type of speaker, with the intention of adding a bass module "The cavalry to the rescue".
The Napoleons utilize a ND65 and ND16 combination in a cabinet with a gross volume of just under 1.5L. They measure 4.75" x 4.75" x 7.5" while the calvary are a truncated pyramid measuring 4.75" square at the top tapering out to 13" square at the bottom and 29.5" tall giving them a tweeter height of 35.5" when stacked. The cavalry use 2 Dayton DC160's in an isobaric vented alignment, giving a F3 in the low 30's.

jr@macSilver1omojoeybuttsNicholas_23Steve_LeeKornbreadScottSkenrhodeshifiside6thplanetand 4 others.
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  • ok, what's your finishing steps on this beauty

  • @tajanes said:
    ok, what's your finishing steps on this beauty

  • These are sprayed with 2K urethane. The veneer was so rough that I ended up spraying them twice and sanding them back before I got a smooth coat the last time. I really should have used grain filler first, but I was in a hurry and ended up paying the price.

    Steve_Lee
  • Do you ever make anything ugly?

    rjj45
  • @PWRRYD said:
    Do you ever make anything ugly?

    I'd assume woofers :p

  • Absolutely!!!

  • @PWRRYD said:
    Do you ever make anything ugly?

    No, but his mom did.

    OH!!😝

    Ed_PerkinsPWRRYDugly_wooferKornbreadBryan@MAC
  • Stop talking to my mom Eric! =)

    PWRRYD6thplanet
  • how did you mount the inside driver?

  • I've tried iso's (after seeing the Orange SP410 and OBC212s), and I have to say I like your circular coupling design

  • edited December 2022

    @ani_101 said:
    how did you mount the inside driver?

    Looks like surface mount . . . (See last pic, ^ above).

  • The inside driver is just screwed to the tunnel with weather stripping as a gasket. I did fill the inner driver paper gaskets with silicone.

  • both top and bottom are accessible, so i guess you could screw in from both ends?

  • Thanks correct Ani. :)

    ani_101
  • Oh but those internal glue runs.... your stock is dropping number 2!

    Steve_Lee
  • But I finish the bottoms. :p

  • Here's where I'm at currently. I have just a touch of phase fuckery, (circled) it's where the tweeter phase starts to veer off. Now I need some seat time, before any final tweaking.

  • I should mention that if you look at the inside picture, you'll see an inner ledge with weather stripping. I originally intended to make a dual chamber bass reflex enclosure, but I didn't care for the sound.

  • This is the near and far field blended to remove all the room bullshit.

    Silver1omojhollander6thplanet
  • edited December 2022

    Resolved some of the phase issue.

  • These have wide dispersion. The graph shows 0 to 90 degrees in 15 degree increments.

    Silver1omoSteve_Lee
  • 30 and 45 degrees off-ctr are impressive

  • So I decided to add grills with built in waveguides to these guys. This is a rough first version for proof of concept.

  • The off axis behavior is greatly improved. This is every 10 degrees up to 80 and my usual 3db/div.

    6thplanetSteve_Leehifiside
  • @Nicholas_23 said:
    Wish I had this dedication , going to mud and glass it?

    No the permanent version will just get painted black, covered in cloth and held on with magnets.

    kenrhodes
  • That waveguide makes a very noticable difference above 800hz. I expected the tweeters response to improve but the woofer response improvement is an unexpected bonus. Is it safe to say this is all a reduction of diffraction? I don't see anything that makes me think there is a boost caused by any "horn" loading.

  • The wg does provide boost. The response that I posted is of a modified crossover for the wg. Here's the response with the original crossover and wg.

    6thplanetkenrhodes
  • Ahh that makes more sense.
    Did you keep the same crossover point or did you lower the crossover point to work better with the boost? I have seen where boost at the crossover can be problematic.

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