Looks like the RS270P-8 is unavailable as well....
I don't think the RS270P-4 is coming back. The RS270P-8A has been gone since last summer--I think I ended up getting 2 of the last 3. I'm sitting on 4 of them, now. And so help me, they're all going into the same speaker.
It is a wonderful driver that just never got the attention it deserves. Excellent lower midrange performance. And it was like $100!
I completely agree Dirk. They play low bass with ease and also do the midbass / lower midrange quite well. Absolutely nothing negative I can say about them. And their price... Wow what a deal! I suppose 10" woofers have fallen out of favor to multiple 6" or so drivers.
I really wonder if the sales of the RS270 drivers have been good from the beginning or not. They tend to take a pretty big box to get low, but they are good performers. I'm sitting on a quad of the 8 ohm aluminum, and not even sure what I can use them for...
I'm not too up on the latest cordless tools but I thought the trend was higher and higher voltages? I thought 12 Volt batteries were the standard a decade ot two ago. Then everyone went to 18 V, then 20 V. My cheapo Hazzard Fraught drill is 20 V. I would venture to guess that if you don't need the power a lower voltage battery/tool should be smaller and lighter, which is nice.
Yeah , I knew that comment was coming. Ive had my 12v eco system for years now. Was in the light carpentry trade with my brother in law for a bit then did some low voltage stuff for bit. Ive never had any issues with the 12V milwaukee tools used. Now, I wasnt building houses with them , well maybe kinda , but just working in them.
@PWRRYD said:
I'm not too up on the latest cordless tools but I thought the trend was higher and higher voltages? I thought 12 Volt batteries were the standard a decade ot two ago. Then everyone went to 18 V, then 20 V. My cheapo Hazzard Fraught drill is 20 V. I would venture to guess that if you don't need the power a lower voltage battery/tool should be smaller and lighter, which is nice.
The Milwaukee 12v 3/8" impact has a lot more grunt when trying to get out stubborn bolts than the 18v version. We always have to throw the old stuff in the landfill and buy new. It's the Amerikan way.
@PWRRYD said:
I'm not too up on the latest cordless tools but I thought the trend was higher and higher voltages? I thought 12 Volt batteries were the standard a decade ot two ago. Then everyone went to 18 V, then 20 V. My cheapo Hazzard Fraught drill is 20 V. I would venture to guess that if you don't need the power a lower voltage battery/tool should be smaller and lighter, which is nice.
The Milwaukee 12v 3/8" impact has a lot more grunt when trying to get out stubborn bolts than the 18v version. We always have to throw the old stuff in the landfill and buy new. It's the Amerikan way.
The old stuff uses brushed motors which had simpler speed control. Tends to be more robust for current carrying.. if less refined feeling.
I have a Makita brushed 18v screw gun that is probably 20years old. That thing will still send a 4" deck screw straight through a tree if you ask it to (head and all). I finally had to replace the trigger speed control for less than $20.
I got a Makita 18v brushless one a few years ago to get me by while I repaired the above one. It is much quieter and less vibey. It would be nicer to work with and appears to have lots of torque, until It cuts out for overcurrent... Which is pretty often if you are used to giving em "a hot supper". It gets the job done, but doesn't have the sheer amount of ass behind it of the old tech.
My 12V Ridgid is maybe 10 years old now, and it still has enough for most anything I need to do. I'm really glad I ponied for the larger Ah batteries when they were released. It's a light drill, and will still give my hand a good kick when in drill mode if I don't watch it. This is the ONLY battery powered tool I own.
My guess is the 20v stuff allows for more powerful tools to be introduced into the lineup. Dewalt just released a 20v cordless full-size router.
I have drill, impact driver, jig saw, palm sander, all of which probably do fine without the 20v supply. But my leaf blower and chain saw last 10-20 minutes max even with a 5Ah battery.
The Milwaukee 12v 3/8" impact has a lot more grunt when trying to get out stubborn bolts than the 18v version. We always have to throw the old stuff in the landfill and buy new. It's the Amerikan way.
Interesting. I wonder why.
Not sure. While back, a buddy and I were up on an elevator pulling off an inspection plate. My 18v Milwaukee wouldn't budge several of the bolts. His 12v Milwaukee zipped them right out. Saved us a climb down to get a breaker bar.
I generally opt for the 12v versions of tools that don't need a ton of juice like drills, drivers, multitools, etc. Having a smaller, lighter tool ends up being a benefit for me way more often than having more power. For some tools though, like a cordless circular saw, 18V is the minimum I'd want. I really like the Milwaukee stuff too.
Several Reference Series drivers are on sale with pretty big discounts. If purchased tomorrow can also take the 13% Labor Day discount. I actually waited for the Labor Day sale knowing it was coming and purchased some of these last week and they arrived Friday. Sigh. 😔
@Wolf said:
I really wonder if the sales of the RS270 drivers have been good from the beginning or not. They tend to take a pretty big box to get low, but they are good performers. I'm sitting on a quad of the 8 ohm aluminum, and not even sure what I can use them for...
Late to the party but I almost got these for the Indy speakers. Isobaric they would work great. The box would have been still to big for the contest rules so I went with the DC's.
@DanP said:
I generally opt for the 12v versions of tools that don't need a ton of juice like drills, drivers, multitools, etc. Having a smaller, lighter tool ends up being a benefit for me way more often than having more power. For some tools though, like a cordless circular saw, 18V is the minimum I'd want. I really like the Milwaukee stuff too.
I agree. When you are dealing with speakers, you don't need tons of torque or speed. I want more control as well. Meaning varitable speed with the trigger.
For speaker assembly I use a cheap 18V B&D 1/4" impact. It's pretty gutless.
Rest of my tools are either yellow or chartreuse. I like my Ryobi tools - I have a Brad nailer, caulk gun, drill and impact I bought for work, leaf blower.
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So the Dynavox 5" in both flavors are now MOQ of 200. Sad that nobody wants to sell them any longer.
Sigh... Just bought 20 of those 50uF caps.
I've been thinking about doing the same...
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I bought 50 - couple of 3 way projects.....
I should/will hopefully before they are all gone.
I did however buy a pair of each of these on Ebay...
Yes, you are reading the label right, and yes, day eez HOOJ!
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@Wolf said:
I don't think the RS270P-4 is coming back. The RS270P-8A has been gone since last summer--I think I ended up getting 2 of the last 3. I'm sitting on 4 of them, now. And so help me, they're all going into the same speaker.
It is a wonderful driver that just never got the attention it deserves. Excellent lower midrange performance. And it was like $100!
I completely agree Dirk. They play low bass with ease and also do the midbass / lower midrange quite well. Absolutely nothing negative I can say about them. And their price... Wow what a deal! I suppose 10" woofers have fallen out of favor to multiple 6" or so drivers.
I really wonder if the sales of the RS270 drivers have been good from the beginning or not. They tend to take a pretty big box to get low, but they are good performers. I'm sitting on a quad of the 8 ohm aluminum, and not even sure what I can use them for...
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If I already didnt have these tools......
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Li-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-and-Impact-Driver-Combo-Kit-2-Tool-with-M12-3-8-in-Ratchet-3497-22-2457-20/321639489?clickid=3iOWvV37WxyNT6pVgd2eiR0BUkC1tJyYEycmTQ0
I'm not too up on the latest cordless tools but I thought the trend was higher and higher voltages? I thought 12 Volt batteries were the standard a decade ot two ago. Then everyone went to 18 V, then 20 V. My cheapo Hazzard Fraught drill is 20 V. I would venture to guess that if you don't need the power a lower voltage battery/tool should be smaller and lighter, which is nice.
Yeah , I knew that comment was coming. Ive had my 12v eco system for years now. Was in the light carpentry trade with my brother in law for a bit then did some low voltage stuff for bit. Ive never had any issues with the 12V milwaukee tools used. Now, I wasnt building houses with them , well maybe kinda , but just working in them.
The Milwaukee 12v 3/8" impact has a lot more grunt when trying to get out stubborn bolts than the 18v version. We always have to throw the old stuff in the landfill and buy new. It's the Amerikan way.
Interesting. I wonder why.
The old stuff uses brushed motors which had simpler speed control. Tends to be more robust for current carrying.. if less refined feeling.
I have a Makita brushed 18v screw gun that is probably 20years old. That thing will still send a 4" deck screw straight through a tree if you ask it to (head and all). I finally had to replace the trigger speed control for less than $20.
I got a Makita 18v brushless one a few years ago to get me by while I repaired the above one. It is much quieter and less vibey. It would be nicer to work with and appears to have lots of torque, until It cuts out for overcurrent... Which is pretty often if you are used to giving em "a hot supper". It gets the job done, but doesn't have the sheer amount of ass behind it of the old tech.
My 12V Ridgid is maybe 10 years old now, and it still has enough for most anything I need to do. I'm really glad I ponied for the larger Ah batteries when they were released. It's a light drill, and will still give my hand a good kick when in drill mode if I don't watch it. This is the ONLY battery powered tool I own.
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My guess is the 20v stuff allows for more powerful tools to be introduced into the lineup. Dewalt just released a 20v cordless full-size router.
I have drill, impact driver, jig saw, palm sander, all of which probably do fine without the 20v supply. But my leaf blower and chain saw last 10-20 minutes max even with a 5Ah battery.
Not sure. While back, a buddy and I were up on an elevator pulling off an inspection plate. My 18v Milwaukee wouldn't budge several of the bolts. His 12v Milwaukee zipped them right out. Saved us a climb down to get a breaker bar.
I generally opt for the 12v versions of tools that don't need a ton of juice like drills, drivers, multitools, etc. Having a smaller, lighter tool ends up being a benefit for me way more often than having more power. For some tools though, like a cordless circular saw, 18V is the minimum I'd want. I really like the Milwaukee stuff too.
Several Reference Series drivers are on sale with pretty big discounts. If purchased tomorrow can also take the 13% Labor Day discount. I actually waited for the Labor Day sale knowing it was coming and purchased some of these last week and they arrived Friday. Sigh. 😔
Just insomnia measured four of them and stopped there. 49.6, 49.8, 50.2, and 50.4.
Grab em while you can. Steve said he has a lot of them.
Late to the party but I almost got these for the Indy speakers. Isobaric they would work great. The box would have been still to big for the contest rules so I went with the DC's.
I agree. When you are dealing with speakers, you don't need tons of torque or speed. I want more control as well. Meaning varitable speed with the trigger.
For speaker assembly I use a cheap 18V B&D 1/4" impact. It's pretty gutless.
Rest of my tools are either yellow or chartreuse. I like my Ryobi tools - I have a Brad nailer, caulk gun, drill and impact I bought for work, leaf blower.
I have lots of yellow tools. And batteries.
I guess I don't consider 38 Liters that large of an enclosure for a 10" woofer. The RS270P-4A in 1.35 Ft^3:
https://www.jfcomponents.com/
That's a great price - not fun to route though . . .
https://www.menards.com/main/paint/adhesives-glue-tape/adhesive/spray-adhesives/aervoe-reg-multi-purpose-adhesive/2028000/p-1642874329020192-c-7923.htm
https://www.jfcomponents.com/
Looks like a ton of Dayton coils are on sale.
It’s a 2-pack.
https://www.jfcomponents.com/